April 10, 2013

Liberal Questions, Progressive Answers.

Back during the Bush years, I had many a debate about Guantanamo.  Lots of rancor thrown about, talk about the Shredding of our Constitution etc.  When Obama ran for President this was a main plank in his platform.  Question:  Are the Liberals out there screaming about this forgotten issue?

Answer: Poll finds broad support for Obama’s counterterrorism policies.
The poll shows that 53 percent of self-identified liberal Democrats — and 67 percent of moderate or conservative Democrats — support keeping Guantanamo Bay open, even though it emerged as a symbol of the post-Sept. 11 national security policies of George W. Bush, which many liberals bitterly opposed.

There was also a lot of concern over the Bush\Cheney assault on civil liberties.  Primarily that if the president accuses someone of being a terrorist can be detained without due process, or even killed without the same.  Not to mention Bush’s mere due-process-free eavesdropping on and detention of American citizens. This  caused much liberal outrage.  Question: Are the Liberals out there similarly outraged with Obama?

Answer: Liberals, Dems approve of drone strikes on American citizens abroad
The number of those who approve of the drone strikes drops nearly 20 percent when respondents are told that the targets are American citizens. But that 65 percent is still a very big number, given that these policies really should be controversial.

And get this: Depressingly, Democrats approve of the drone strikes on American citizens by 58-33, and even liberals approve of them, 55-35. Those numbers were provided to me by the Post polling team.

Lets go back to 2006 and see what was being stated on the left.  Do Bush followers have a political ideology?
Whether one is a “liberal” — or, for that matter, a “conservative” — is now no longer a function of one’s actual political views, but is a function purely of one’s personal loyalty to George Bush. . . .

People who self-identify as “conservatives” and have always been considered to be conservatives become liberal heathens the moment they dissent, even on the most non-ideological grounds, from a Bush decree. That’s because “conservatism” is now a term used to describe personal loyalty to the leader (just as “liberal” is used to describe disloyalty to that leader), and no longer refers to a set of beliefs about government.

That “conservatism” has come to mean “loyalty to George Bush” is particularly ironic given how truly un-conservative the Administration is. . . . And in that regard, people like Michelle Malkin, John Hinderaker, Jonah Goldberg and Hugh Hewitt are not conservatives. They are authoritarian cultists. Their allegiance is not to any principles of government but to strong authority through a single leader.

To sum it up: Do you surrender your autonomy by joining a political party?
“under the leadership of a President who campaigned with the promise to close the facility, . . . support for the detention center may be at its highest level ever.”

So this was not about Bush being evil or Obama being Evil it is about the notion that Evil depends on who is running the show...

1 comment:

Bob Keller said...

Excellent post and spot-on correct. All Obama did was follow Bush's previously laid out withdrawal plans from Iraq. He then doubled down on Afghanistan and extended that conflict.

Where were the protests? Where was Code Pink? Where was anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan and the truck load of reporters that followed her every move?

All disappeared because Nobel Peace Prize Winner Obama was running the show. It is a sad commentary on Liberalism.